Yeah so, I want to write the songs around what the conversations entail. I think I’m going to ask specific questions, but I don’t want it to be an interview

Like, I don’t want it to be interviewing people, but I want to ask people like: Oh, what’s a conversation you had with someone that really touched you or affected you, or just had an impact on you?

Like, I won’t start with any lyrics in mind, maybe I’ll have a theme or something.

But even then, that’s too structured, you know. It’s a multilayered process as well, it’s not just making the music but it’s also just discovering it.

Close your eyelids
Just to see what lays behind them
A dream within a dream
As you sit within your mind

Let your head and your breath be your guide in
A beaming vision, in a field intertwined
A conversation
Between you and the outside, yeah

Let it speak and you’ll receive
What it may find
Allow it all to build
However it combines

Even if we don’t talk anymore
I miss how we used to talk

Even if we don’t talk anymore
I miss how we used to talk


So much can change between
Old and new exchanges
A season gone
With another one to come

A reaching out, a word of mouth, a rearrangement
Different words to be heard by someone
To get to know, then oppose, and then estrangement
Different phrases, ways to let go of someone

In the end that’s all that makes a conversation, yeah
We connect, intersect, and come undone

Even if we don’t talk anymore
I miss how we used to talk

Even if we don’t talk anymore
I miss how we used to talk